Tuesday, January 10, 2012

oh really?

i am going to post this or i did post this NOT because i agree with the conclusions, but because these refutations are so common, conservatives no longer argue that Scandanavia is a basket case, they cant, 20 years ago the Scandanavians ran into quite a bit of trouble, high taxes and regulation has stagnated their economies and culture, what they did basically was this adapting to the new market economy/global economy with compromise and concensus in any other case conservatives will contend thats socialism has been an abject failure flat out , and they do have a point the traditional state socialist model never worked very well not even in western democracies and thats hard for me to say because for years i was a dedicated democratic socialist, but the old model of high taxation and state ownership? it fell to pieces so what does one do? completely abandon values you have had your whole life because the revolution failed the first time? all revolutions fail the first time, do you remember the first time you road a bicycle? what you never fell off , but you did not give up did you? and now riding a bicycle is second nature and i think changing a society is like that, two step forward a step a back try this abandon that til you find something that works...conservatives mock Scandanavia as the only "Socialist or Social Democratic model" that even remotely works, but lately its been doing very well it survived the economic meltdown better than other models and much better than the anglo saxon economies as they are called so now they are back to pointing out that htese economies are basically capitalists based on sound market principles..WELL THEY ARE RIGHT! but
and its a big butt What else? They are all borderline socialist states, with generous welfare benefits and lots of redistribution of wealth. Yet they don't let that socialism cross the line into autocracy. Civil liberties are abundant (consider decriminalized drugs and prostitution in the Netherlands). There are few restrictions on the flow of capital or of labor. Legatum's scholars point out that Denmark, for example, has little job protection, but generous unemployment benefits. So business owners can keep the right number of workers, while workers can have a safety net while they muck around looking for that fulfilling job. Capitalim is indeed the most productive system for producing all sort of goods, and innovation, it is realy hard to dispute this objectively, where it fails miserably is on distributing those goods fairly, and insuring all have adequate levels of necessities like housing health care education, day care etc. there are certain things the market just cant distribute efficently..so you have to create a balance the only arguement thay have left and i here it all the time is IT CANNOT BE APPLIED HERE.. and i've seen no data to indicate whether it can or can not no studies have ever been done..is it counter intuitive that we are too big? WHY? I THINK THIS IS A BLUFF ITS BULLSH*T SOMETHING STATED AS A GIVEN THAT Isnt! MIGHT IT NOT BE WORTH A TRY TO sEE HOW MUCH OF THIS MODEL WE CAN LEARN FRom AND TRANSFER TO US? WE DO NEED IMPROVEMENT THAT MUCH IS A NO BRAINER

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